or a u.s. senator. maybe it is just ambition and not anything else. >> jennifer: all right. donnie fowler, thank you my friend. appreciate you coming in. up next, just because someone is a leader doesn't mean that they exhibit leadership. i'm going to give you my thoughts on that difference right after this. >> jennifer: the now to my point, in june of 1944, around 150,000 brave men were asked to storm the beaches of normandy. at risk to themselves, they accepted the challenge on behalf of their nation and the world. they were heroes. they were leaders. imagine if we had leaders today with as much courage as each of those soldiers had in just one of their fingers. this gun debate and the fiscal cliff and frankly all important and difficult issues demand leaders who are willing to be personally uncomfortable. what are willing to lean into an oncoming storm rather than be blown along with it. the men at normandy risked their lives for what was right. our politicians could at least risk their campaign donations. it is easy to avoid tough decisions. it is easy to side step chall